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Lions led by Asses – Here’s your proof MacKay

After a fortnight of listening to Tories accuse anybody who asks questions about the torture transfer issue of being against the troops, the truth is coming out. It’s the Generals and the Tories who hate the troops enough to use their lives to hide their mistakes.

Our wonderful troops actually know what is decent and right and do it, it’s the Generals and the Government who have issues with honesty.

In the case of the transferred and subsequently rescued detainee, Canadian soldiers intervened to take an Afghan from a room where he was surrounded by five or six Afghan police who were beating the handcuffed man with shoes or boots.

Blood was running down the detainee’s face so “I immediately assumed positive control of the individual and removed him,” the soldier’s field diary says.

Happened in 2006, as did this action by soldiers on the ground outside the wire,

Col. Noonan’s affidavit also refers to instances of Canadian soldiers refusing to transfer prisoners threatened with death by Afghan security forces.

“The Afghan National Army wished to take custody of a detainee captured by the Canadian Forces and were overheard, by an interpreter, to be contemplating the execution of the detainee,” Col. Noonan said in his affidavit, adding that the chain of command was advised and the detainee wasn’t transferred.

It would appear that our troops not only knew their duty, but they did inform their chain of command too. The Generals’ and MacKay’s denials are looking pretty rocky now. It looks like in order to save their own sorry little arses the hierarchy were quite willing to use the good name of our armed forces as a human shield to cover  their negligence and illegal acts.

That to me is a real and disgusting example of not supporting the troops. That to me shows what the real character of our leaders is. Let’s open the archives, see what else they’ve done to sell out our dead and wounded and get this to court. I am seriously pissed off.

Lions led by asses.” indeed.

(h/t CC)

Conservatives show their ignorance and dedication to irrationality Part 765

(Lifted from PZ)

The rightwing once more illustrate how dishonest they can be when pushing their political agenda. The truth means nothing to the modern conservative, just winning even if that victory is Pyrrhic. If I can’t win then nobody wins and I’ll take everyone with me.

The first video illustrates the lies and omissions the mouthpieces had to engage in just to try and form a coherent position. The narrator doesn’t discount fraud, but does dismiss the evidence that the brainless wonders to the right thinks is damning. And he does it by using research and reading skills. The narrator is awaiting the outcome of an inquiry so that all the facts may be known before pronouncing judgment… How odd and alien this must seem to the wingnuts.

Using your gut, disparaging intellect, knowing all along, these are the characteristics of the modern conservative; they don’t need inquiries, especially into their illegal deeds, they know that they are right and that all those opposing are wrong. How, because the opposition are opposing them! That’s how.

“This is a complex issue and your misrepresentation of it does you a disservice. To someone like me who knows the science, it is apparent that you are presenting a personal view, not an informed, balanced, scientific assessment.”

written by one of the so-called fraudsters to a group trying to politicise the science beyond its ability to support their assertions. Strange kind of fraudster who would council against the aims of the conspiracy that they are supposed to be a part of.

Any commenter taking issue with this needs to address the actual contents of the video or this post. If you don’t then what are you actually commenting here for?

It appears Blatchford isn’t a real journalist after all, and her editors are clueless about editing too.

In answer to my earlier question about me being a journo. The answer is no.

But happily errors have finally been spotted and a small retraction has been placed under the original article of about a week ago. No sign of a real apology from the gossip monger who clearly invented stuff in order to smear a very brave and dedicated public servant.

Comments released to a parliamentary committee this week about Afghanistan’s Khandahar prison that the facility seemed “to be in reasonably good condition” and that inmates got “enough food” were misattributed to Canadian diplomat Richard Colvin. In fact, the comments were made by an unknown third party and quoted by Mr. Colvin in an e-amil. Mr. Colvin made several trips, not one, outside the military base in Khandahar. Incorrect information appeared in a column November 28.

Nor an explanation about who sent her the incomplete supply of memos that she used in her ballsed up hatchet job or why they chose her?

I have my ideas about why, but opinion based on gut feelings are not necessarily true, so I’ll reserve comment for now.

62 MPG – why can`t we buy this here?

In an unbelievable example of “it`s not invented here“ syndrome we in N America cannot make the most of superior design from Europe.

It`s time we realised that using less oil will mean more cash in our pockets and less moolah for those countries who us our dependence to “piss in pockets and tell us its raining.“

Torture – an unfair, inaccurate and dangerous extrapolation from the left

Watching the National tonight I watched the pasty doughboy losing face in China. That was seriously messed up. A rightwing religious loon of a PM being fed totalitarian shite and chewing the required number of times before swallowing.

But then Stevie shows that he has some intestinal fortitude and asks about the Canadian held in China`s dungeons. My first thought was wow, CPoSteve cares about folk who worship differently to his xtian supporters and have a skin colour that isn`t pasty. Why didn`t  he display this care towards the Kenyan one or the Sudanese singularity? Ah yes he was questioning a commie, a red, pinko. That`ll play well with his basest of bases.

Then up popped the idiot from the left to ruin the embarrassment that Stevie would have to own and make the most preposterous remark that will divert the attention towards the academic, leftie dick and not the idiot who has done more than bow to a sovereign.

Paltiel claims that our PM cannot lecture the Chinese about human rights while we have the handing over detainees for torture issue going on here. My view is.“ piss off you idiot.“ Anybody with half a brain can understand the difference in magnitude of the abuses committed by China as compared to that involved in the Colvin affair. The most obvious of which is that the Chinese torture their own, nobody as of yet has shown that Canadians have tortured anyone in Afghanistan.

I have been as critical as anyone of the actions of the CPoC with respect to hushing up and covering up of the torture issue here, but there can be no comparison of this with the massive repression that happens in China. Paltiel is an idiot for allowing himself to be suckered into saying what he did. Everybody has a basis to question the disgusting abuses of the Chinese government towards its own people because they abuse their own people on a scale that nobody else has ever come close to. They are nasty, abhorrent, evil scumbags who deliberately torture, kill, and ethnically cleanse as a matter of policy and with no fear of retribution. Given that scenario even Pinochet could criticise them and he would be in the right.

Paliel you dolt.

One lady kicks the pomposity of religion in the nuts – go on yerself

I love this lady who makes an archbishop crap himself:

But do not ask the unthinking Tory groupies to actually address the beam in their own eye. Raped kids seem to be okay to these losers because they can always point to other equally as mad religions that the dark and swarthy adhere to. (Go on search the Bloggingtories website for child raping catholics.)

Thanks pharyngula (see side bar for link)

UPDATE

For the real skinny on the hypocrisy of those who tell you how to live your life. The pontificator of all things moral and catholic doesn’t even think that buggering kids is worth an explanation from a moral point of view. It seems that the main catholic objection to family planning is that it robs their clergy of future victims. But just in case it disappears here’s the text:

I can launch comments from left field, too, harebell. This has nothing to do with the topic. I did not comment on the issue because I didn’t feel like it, just like you didn’t comment on any number of topics because you didn’t feel like it. It doesn’t make you any less caring an individual, it doesn’t make me any less caring an individual.

This came just after the apologist for her church told us the benefits of communion, it’d be funny if it was not so sad and so serious for those abused. Suzie you constantly put the catholic church and what you think are children front and centre except when the interests of your church counter that of born kids then it’s, “move along nothing to see here.” Your church can do no wrong even when it clearly has. Your delusion has blinded you to reality. That is the real danger behind religion!

If Blatchford is a journo, can I be one too?

No idea for the rationale behind this piece except for an exercise in sucking up.

The “journo” states:

“In condemning with the same brush highly professional Canadian soldiers, and to complain that they were complicit in breaches of the law of armed conflict and knowingly buried his reports, it is Mr. Colvin who has some explaining left to do.”

If you mean the 3 Generals then say so. Don’t try and conflate the issue by using a generic term to include all possible soldiers. Because if I remember correctly Colvin said:

Second, I was very proud to have served in Afghanistan alongside the courageous and professional men and women of the Canadian Forces, including Canada’s military police. The focus of our attention, in my view, should not be on those who obeyed their chain of command, which soldiers are obliged to do. Instead, any responsibility for Canada’s practices toward detainees lies, in my view, with the senior military officers, senior civilian officials and the lawyers who developed the legal framework, designed the policies and practices and then ordered that they be implemented.

Seeking to obscure the point and being inaccurate is not a journalistic virtue.

Blatchford then goes on to highlight terms in a memo like, “not that bad,” or “not the worst in Afghanistan,” and to say that the worst the report could be said about them was they were”unsavoury” or “unsatisfactory.” Strange because I just read a heavily redacted memo on Dawg’s blog that also included:

Of the [redacted] detainees we interviewed, [redacted] said [redacted] had been whipped with cables, shocked with electricity and/or otherwise “hurt”….detainees still had [redacted] on [redacted] body; [redacted] seemed traumatized.

Individual sat with his toes curled under his feet. When he straightened his toe, it could be seen that the nails of the big toe and the one next to it, were a red-orange on the top of the nail, although the new growth underneath appeared fine. When we asked him about his treatment [redacted] rather than Kabul, he became quiet. He said that [redacted] he had been “hurt” and “had problems.” However, he is “happy now.” He did not elaborate on what happened [redacted]. [Redacted] seemed very eager to please, very deferential, and expressed gratitude for our visit. General impression was that he was somewhat traumatized.

When we asked him about his treatment [redacted] he said he had “a very bad time. They hit us with cables and wires.” He said they also shocked him with electricity. He showed us a number of scars on his legs, which he said were caused by the beating. He said he was hit for [redacted] days….

He and others told [redacted] that three fellow detainees had had their fingers “cut and burned with a lighter”….When we asked about his own treatment [redacted] he said that he was hit on his feet with a cable or a “big wire” and forced to stand for two days, but “that’s all.” He showed us a mark on the back of his ankle, which he said was from the cable. [Note: There was a dark red mark on the back of his ankle.]

Go and click to an actual copy of a Colvin memo if you don’t believe me. So our intrepid journo managed to see all the other more benign words and completely miss the bits about beatings and electrocutions? Some investigative talent you have there.

Then she claims that he couldn’t know anything like the military, because he didn’t spend time alongside the troops for more than half a day as she calculated it. Well for a guy who volunteered to cover for a predecessor who was blown up along with 3 soldiers, he showed a crap load of intestinal fortitude to me. The fact that his predecessor was blown up indicates that Colvin was prepared to be put in harms way. But here again she conflates the risks to the soldiers on the front line with that of the Generals. It would be my guess that Colvin was in far more danger where he was than any of the three Generals, so equating their position with the troops and decrying Colvin for not being there is another piece of shoddy story telling.

But an attempted slap down wouldn’t be complete until the liberal arts trained journo tries to back it up with a bit of science and messes up gloriously:

From the start, Canadian soldiers were using gunshot residue tests (this was mentioned by the former chief of defence staff Rick Hillier in his testimony to the committee this week, but the significance of the remark went unnoticed) to sift the wheat from the chaff.

They detained only those who tested positive for GSR (meaning they had recently either fired a weapon or been right beside someone who had), were found with guns or bomb-making parts or near IED strikes or were otherwise highly suspicious, such as well-dressed men carrying large amounts of Pakistani cash.

Mr. Colvin’s claim that innocent farmers were being cruelly dispatched to torture suggests he paid scarce attention to the “Taliban by night” phenomenon, whereby the man who farms by day becomes, under cover of darkness, a low-level fighter in the insurgency.

They used sciency stuff to prove that the folk they captured were fifth column terrorists. Gunshot residue tests do indeed tell you who has fired a gun recently and if used along with other forensic methods can combine with absolute certainty. Unfortunately, and you knew this was coming, they can produce false positives and result in erroneous arrests if used on their own;

In contrast, another traditional test for finding gunshot residue, the modified Griess test, often fails because it lacks such specificity. Its analysis is based on the detection of Nitrogen-based compounds called nitrites, which are gunpowder byproducts. But these compounds are also found elsewhere, leading to possible ambiguity in testing.

“Many chemical cleaners — anything that can be used to take off motor oil or freight dust — will test positive for gunshot residue using the Griess test,” Burleson said.

That would make the reading a false positive, which opens the door in court cases for reasonable doubt and possibly incarcerating an innocent person.

Motor oil and freight dust cleaners… mmm now why would any Afghani farmer have that on his hands. Also another common use for nitrites is as a pesticide (and a food preservative) and nitrates is fertiliser, nitrates reduce down to nitrites. Well knock me down with a feather, a farmer with motor oil/ freight dust cleaners and fertiliser on his person… terrrrrrist.

Poor effort, very poor.

MacKay appears to be at the least negligent and at the worst a leaker of state secrets and perverter of the course of justice

The unbelievable arrogance shown by MacKay, one of our so called top ministers, in this clip linked to in this post  at Mike Watkins is staggering.

I hope our security services are investigating this disgraceful behaviour. Laws only appear to apply to others in this cabal of power grabbing incompetents.

So MacKay, “did you lose them or provide them?”

Your career is at an end either way and you could be facing a stretch inside to boot.

Mulrooney evades Dewar’s question – Humphrey Appleton would be proud

I was watching CPAC today and wow I had flashbacks to Yes Minister.

“Can you guarantee prior to the to the 2007 update that no Canadian transfer prisoner was tortured?” Asks Dewar.

Cue evasion, answering a different question, chairperson interruptions etc. Wow Colvin was right, the testimony of the generals and Mulrooney just add weight to how correct our man in Washington was. He reported torture and folk tried to run/hide until they eventually reformed the process in May 2007.

Mulrooney meet Sir Humpy

White, xtian men covered up the physical and sexual abuse of children by other white, xtian men.

The final report is out.

The catholic church in Ireland was the recipient of organised help in covering up its horrific actions towards small children in its care. The organised help came from the hierarchy of the church in Rome (including the office that the present pope held last) as well as at the diocese level.

The catholic church is a corrupt organisation and its “movers and shakers” are more loyal to the church than they are to the standards and laws of the countries of which they are citizens. Unfortunately so were some who were in a position of power within the state protective organs and their “faith” led them to turn a blind eye to child rape.

Three Dublin archbishops – John Charles McQuaid (1940-72), Dermot Ryan (1972-84) and Kevin McNamara (1985-87) – did not tell police about clerical abuse cases, instead opting to avoid public scandals by shuttling offenders from parish to parish, the commission found.

Senior police officers “clearly regarded priests as being outside their remit,” handing “complaints to the archdiocese instead of investigating them.”

A good thing that might come out of this horrible episode is that the hold of the church in Ireland might be broken. This could result in the influence of the last dictatorship in the heart of Europe being thrown out by one of its most faithful flocks. The child abusers will still hold sway in other parts of the world, but hopefully Ireland is the start of a truly momentous shift in thinking.

The title is deliberately confrontational because so many folk target the admitted absurdities of islam and the other world religions but conveniently forget about the Western tradition.

ALL religions are inherently abusive, from honour killings to caste atrocities, to child rape and abuse, to fostering fear of the other and war; they all claim that only they are truly good and blessed and everyone who disagrees with them is a barbarian, heretic, evil etc.

When nobody questions the faerie tales the hideous events uncovered in Ireland happen because there are no grounds to question god’s representatives on earth.

What was the involvement of the church in Canada in this affair or the affairs that have been exposed here? Will our government show the leadership that the Irish government showed recently and see if the tentacles reach us?